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Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:00
Copyright infridgement clamped down
SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) / WEB BLOCKING For the last couple of years the three-strikes has been the preferred method of stopping people from downloading music illegally. Now it's court injunctions forcing ISPs to block access to websites that infringe copyrights. This has been successful with websites such as…
Friday, 27 January 2012 13:42
Carl Taylor mixes up EPM Podcast 29
Next up on the EPM Podcast we welcome a man whose techno oozes soul and depth whilst his house has plenty of dirt under its fingernails, South Yorkshire’s finest - Carl Taylor. True to his techno and acid house roots, Carl’s podcast features some of the most exciting names in…
Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:47
Carl Taylor album launch party @ Ginglik Sat 14th Jan 2012
Techliks in association with EPM Music and Uncharted Audio Saturday 14th January 2012 Ginglik, 1 Shepherds Bush Green, London W12 8PH - http://www.ginglik.co.uk 8pm-3am £6 before 10pm, £8 after Carl Taylor - live (exclusive album launch show) Ukkonen - live (exclusive debut UK performance) plus resident DJ's Kone-R and Stayhome Carl Taylor Following 2011's single releases…
Wednesday, 21 December 2011 12:46
EPM Podcast 028 - EPM 10 mixed
Following the Godfather of techno, Juan Atkins’ Podcast EPM book-end their 10th year with a special EPM 10 mix from Oliver Way. Showcasing all the artists featured exclusively on this year’s EPM 10 compilation we get new electronic funk, techno punch, house majesty and electro evangelism from such esteemed artists…
Monday, 21 November 2011 15:30
The Godfather, Juan Atkins in the mix for EPM Podcast 27
Following Phil Weeks Parisien house master class we now welcome a true techno legend in every sense of the word. Ladies and Gentlemen – the godfather himself – Mr. Juan Atkins. The man behind Model 500 and Metroplex this time gets to grips with the EPM digital catalogue as we…
Tuesday, 15 November 2011 22:29
BT ordered to block NewzBin2
For the first time ever in the UK an ISP has been ordered to block a file sharing website solely based on copyright infridgement.BT was given 14 days to block the Newzbin2 website accused of promoting illegal filesharing by Hollywood studios, in the first high court ruling of its kind…
Wednesday, 19 October 2011 16:51
EPM Podcast 026: Phil Weeks dans la Maison!
Following DJ K-1’s electro/techno self-portrait EPM now brings you a live set of pure, unadulterated house from Robsoul’s Phil Weeks. Recorded live at Rome’s Room 26 the Parisian house maestro gets us in the party mood ahead of this year’s EPM & Bullet:Dodge ADE Party. As ever with Mr. Weeks…
Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:51
The Detroit Grand Pubahs launch their new techno label Engineroom
The Detroit Grand Pubahs launch their new techno label Engineroom with a re-recorded update of their classic track ‘Sandwiches’. ‘Club Sandwiches’ comes as a trilogy of 3 heavyweight remixes packages, which officially launches with a label launch party at this year’s ADE. This time, gone is the masks, multiple personas…
Friday, 23 September 2011 16:15
EPM & Bullet:Dodge join forces for an ADE Party on Friday 21 October
For this year’s Amsterdam Dance Event EPM once again bring the dancefloor pressure, this time in conjunction with Gareth Whitehead’s mighty Bullet:Dodge imprint. Taking place at the intimate 200 capacity ‘The House of Rising’ club / bar the night brings together a line-up including Bio’s Vince Watson, Detroit Grand Pubahs…
Monday, 19 September 2011 12:57
EPM Podcast 25: Keith Tucker aka DJ K-1 takes us on an AUX 88 odyssey
Following Bonzai All Stars EPM now brings you an AUX-hilarating new mix from DJ K-1 (aka Aux 88’s Keith Tucker). Featuring a career defining selection of Keith Tucker’s K-1, Aux 88, Auxmen, Black Tokyo and Optic Nerve productions, unreleased tracks and remixes from Ellen Allien, Arne Weinberg, DIE, Mr. Velcro…
Wednesday, 17 August 2011 08:57
EPM Podcast 24: Bonzai All Stars
Following Anderson Noise EPM now brings you a label mix from the founders of the Hard Trance sound, we welcome Belgium’s infamous Bonzai Records, with a mix of some of their classics by the Bonzai All Stars. Bonzai All Stars is the only true Bonzai experience containing music from all…
Tuesday, 09 August 2011 23:51
EPM to distribute the legendary Manchester club / label Fac51 Hacienda
EPM and the legendary Manchester club / label Fac51 Hacienda have completed a distribution deal for the new label with New Order / Joy Division's Peter Hook With its next releases now fully delivered, Haçienda Records can announce both its fully fledged digital distribution deal and upcoming release schedule An…
Monday, 18 July 2011 21:17
EPM Podcast 23: Anderson Noise
Following Radionasty (the new production and DJ collaboration between Keith Tenniswood and Billy Nasty) we now cross the Atlantic for some first class techno action with a Brazilian twist from Anderson Noise. Building a subtle and layered mix, Anderson Noise delivers a fluid techno selection that slowly but surely gathers…
Thursday, 14 July 2011 11:40
Modeselektor unveil Monkeytown for October release
Berlin techno wizards Modeselektor are returning in full force to their club-oriented roots with Monkeytown, their new album and first in over four years, set for release this October on their very own Monkeytown Records. Monkeytown shows Modeselektor’s Gernot Bronsert and Sebastian Szary focusing on what they do best –…
Wednesday, 15 June 2011 10:12
Keith Tenniswood and Billy Nasty unveil Radionasty @ Nitsa (Off Sonar)
Following Ben Sims frenetic and funk-fuelled set we now take a turn off the beaten track as a new act manned by two dance veterans comes to fruition. Radionasty is the new production and DJ collaboration between Keith Tenniswood and Billy Nasty. Keith Tenniswood (aka Radioactive Man and one half…
Thursday, 26 May 2011 21:56
EPM & Phonomonkey present the Engine Room (Off Sonar) 16 June, Nitsa, Barcelona
EPM (celebrating 10 years) and Spanish digital music store Phonomonkey are joining forces once more to make it three in a row at this year’s Sonar Music Festival in Barcelona. On 16 June at Nitsa Club we will be celebrating the joint launch of Robert Hood’s new artist album ‘Omega:…
Sunday, 15 May 2011 19:36
Amazon launches Cloud Drive & Cloud Player
Amazon launch the Amazon Cloud Drive (www.amazon.com/clouddrive), Amazon Cloud Player for Web (www.amazon.com/cloudplayer) and Amazon Cloud Player for Android (www.amazon.com/cloudplayerandroid), the CloudPlayer is currently only available in the US. Together, these services enable customers to securely store music in the cloud and play it on any Android phone, Android tablet,…
Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:29
EPM's own Oliver Way mixes up Podcast 19
Following new school house heroes Dirt Crew to the EPM Podcast we continue EPM’s 10 Year celebrations with a special ‘classics’ mix from EPM’s own Oliver Way. Featuring underground classics from the likes of Steinski, The Beat Club, Bonesbreaks, Shut Up & Dance, UR, Timezone, Twilight 22 and Landlord alongside…
Wednesday, 16 February 2011 11:58
EPM Online's catalogue also available on Qriocity's "Music Unlimited"
EPM Online has licensed its content to Sony's Qriocity.The Qriocity streaming service is already live in some countries; in the UK, Ireland, Spain, Germany, France and Italy. US and Canada will also launch at the end of the month.For more information on Qriocity's "Music Unlimited" have a look here: http://www.qriocity.com
Monday, 07 February 2011 01:18
Google to introduce new anti-piracy measures
Some of the anti-piracy measures announced by Google last year have gone into action. As previously reported, the web giant last month made various pledges to ensure Google services don't actively support websites that exist solely to enable piracy. Some of those pledges were about making existing anti-piracy efforts more…
Thursday, 27 January 2011 12:43
EPM celebrate 10 years and launch new label
EPM celebrate 10 years by launching their own label with a compilation of 10 exclusive and unreleased tracks from their friends in the world of electronic music and a series of label launch parties around the world. Having worked closely with all the artists on this compilation over the past…
Monday, 20 December 2010 09:02
Manix in the mix for Podcast 016: Reinforced
Following Mark Broom’s live from Nitsa mix we now welcome an altogether different type of beat as drum n bass legends Reinforced take over with Manix (aka Marc Mac) at the helm. Marc Mac steps up to represent for the crew with a 1 hour Reinforced mixtape/podcast special featuring some…
Wednesday, 01 December 2010 11:37
Mark Broom in the mix for EPM Podcast 015
Following Orlando Voorn’s ADE Special we now welcome Mark Broom’s superb closing set from this summer’s EPM/Phonomonkey hosted Robert Hood album launch party during Sonar. With a blistering mix ranging from hot new techno productions to stone cold rave classics, Mark Broom’s Nitsa closing set brings together minimal, acid, techno…
Wednesday, 20 October 2010 12:11
Orlando Voorn mixes EPM Podcast 014
Following Acroplane’s IDM excursion we now welcome Orlando Voorn to the EPM Podcast with an ADE Special from the Dutch techno maestro. Featuring the likes of K.Alexi, Extrawelt, Planetary Assault Systems, James Ruskin & Mark Broom, Future Beat Alliance, Armando, Space DJz, Robert Hood, Sharivari, Art Bleek and of course…
Monday, 04 October 2010 13:24
EMI wins sample goods case and paves the way for UK industry VAT windfall
EMI wins sample goods case and paves the way for UK industry VAT windfall The European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruled in favour of EMI yesterday in a case concerning the UK value added tax (VAT) treatment of sample goods and business gifts given free of charge by EMI in…
Friday, 01 October 2010 10:23
EPM signs InnDigital.com
EPM just signed a deal with InnDigital, an Italian store located at : www.inndigital.com
Tuesday, 28 September 2010 14:19
EPM Podcast 13: Belfast's Acroplane in the mix
Following Chris Finke’s techno excursion we now welcome Acroplane to the EPM Podcast. Ireland’s Paul Acroplane digs deep into the box marked dark and twisted as he traverses electro, bass, dubstep, breaks, techno and electronica providing a sterling mash-up through some of the finest producers and labels around including: Jean…
Thursday, 23 September 2010 08:10
France's 'three strikes' law goes into action
France's 'three strikes' law goes into action This week the controversial French three-strikes anti-piracy law Hadopi went live. The Hadopi law was proposed by the Sarkozy government and passed last year. Copyright holders are currently in the process of sending out 10.000’s of IP-addresses of alleged infringers to ISP’s, and…
Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:21
Detroit Grand Pubahs new video for "Maybe I Do"
"She was poetry from a black book of horror, she held no reflection in the mirror.Black claws like a black cat pullin on my heart strings, it couldn’t get any clearer I was her toy amongst other things.And it seems that you are my nightmare and dreams, you’re my world,…
Friday, 03 September 2010 10:20
GEMA FAILS TO GET INTERIM INJUNCTION IN YOUTUBE DISPUTE
As we recently reported, German collecting society GEMA has been in dispute with YouTube for more than a year now over licensing rates. Licensing talks between the two broke down last May and GEMA asked the German court to issue an injunction to force YouTube to remove any videos containing…
Wednesday, 25 August 2010 17:21
EPM Podcast 12: Chris Finke at the controls
Following Kone-R’s deep techno exploration we now welcome Flux’s Chris Finke to the EPM Podcast, providing a sterling dancefloor workout through some of techno’s finest producers featuring Planetary Assault Systems, Robert Hood, James Ruskin, Sterac, Mark Broom, Echospace, Kevin Gorman, Orlando Voorn, Delta Funktionen plus some exclusive edits from Chris…
Monday, 23 August 2010 08:42
Digital album sales up with 51% in Germany
Sales of digital albums grew 51% in both unit terms and value terms in first half of 2010 compared to the same period in 2009. These details come from German music association BVMI and show that 4.7m digital albums were sold in the first six months of this year compared…
Wednesday, 18 August 2010 10:52
YouTube vs GEMA
As you may have noticed or heard, YouTube is currently blocking a selection of videos on YouTube Germany. This is because negotiations between the German collecting society GEMA and YouTube have broken down.YouTube gives the following explanation: " Our policy has always been to only monetize music in territories where…
Wednesday, 11 August 2010 21:18
Illegal downloads = Fewer musicians
Professors Oberholzer-Gee and Strumpf now appear to offer a nuanced view of the impact of illegal downloading on sales. Six years ago, with great fanfare but since discredited (see here), the academics concluded that the illegal downloading of music had no impact on the sales of music. The professors now…
Friday, 23 July 2010 14:46
A LIFE OF BRIAN: Engine Room R.I.P.
We are sad to say that a dear friend who has been very much part of the EPM team (under the guise of ‘Party Operations Director’) for many years has passed away. Brian Hanna who was known to one and all as ‘Engine Room’ is now getting the party started…
Thursday, 22 July 2010 10:20
EPM Podcast 11: Kone-R mixes it up
Following Vince Watson’s deep techno exploration we now welcome Uncharted Audio’s Kone-R to the EPM Podcast, providing a superb trawl through some of techno and house’s finest moments in recent years featuring the likes of Bandulu, Redshape, Model 500, $tinkworx, Marco Passarani, Robert Hood, James Ruskin, Florence, Baruka and more.…
Thursday, 15 July 2010 13:13
EPM Online's latest store deals II
And EPM Online just signed deals with these online stores: France Telecom/ Orange (www.orange.com); OneCluster, (to be launched in September 2010 - www.onecluster.com); Thumbplay (www.thumbplay.com); Aim4Music (www.aim4music.nl); Satellite (www.satelliterecords.com); More to follow soon!
Wednesday, 14 July 2010 11:29
EPM Online's latest store deals
In the past few weeks EPM Online signed deals with the following online stores: YouLoad, Germany - (http://www.youload.de/) My Clubbing Store, France - (http://www.myclubbingstore.com/en/) So Mixx, Spain - (http://www.somixx.com/) Traxsource, USA - (http://www.traxsource.com/) More to follow!
Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:46
Vince Watson mixes EPM's 10th Podcast
Following Rulex’s exclusive Farris Wheel house excursion we now welcome Vince Watson to the EPM Podcast, providing a deep journey into the more soulful realms of techno, house and leftfield jazz. Featuring the likes of Kindred Spirits Orchestra, Ollie Brooke, Quince, Aroy Dee, Gene Farris and of course his own…
Tuesday, 08 June 2010 10:49
EPM & Phonomonkey present: Robert Hood’s ‘Omega’ Launch Party, Nitsa, Barcelona 17 June
EPM & Phonomonkey present:Robert Hood’s ‘Omega’ Launch Party& Detroit Grand Pubahs ‘Numb Deaf and Dumb’ Release PartyThursday 17th June 201000.00 – 05.0015 Euros / Free with Party InviteNitsa ClubCarrer Nou de la Rambla 113BarcelonaRobert Hood (combined DJ and live set)Mark Broom (Saved/Beardman/Blueprint)Detroit Grand Pubahs - Live (Detelefunk)DJ 3000 (Motech/UR)*all artists…
Tuesday, 18 May 2010 12:31
The Pirate Bay went offline and online again
The Pirate Bay went offline and online again The infamous torrent site The Pirate Bay has been offline for a few hours thanks to an injunction granted after a court action of several Hollywood studios. It’s web hosting provider CB3ROB complied with an injunction ordered by a German court prohibiting…
Tuesday, 18 May 2010 12:29
The Canadian Federal Court has ruled that digital music services don't have to pay performance royalties on 30-second preview clips
The Canadian Federal Court of Appeals has ruled that digital music services do not have to pay performance royalties on 30-second preview clips. This follows a 2007 ruling by the Copyright Board of Canada that said such previews fell under 'fair dealing' as they counted as consumer “research” to help…
Tuesday, 18 May 2010 12:03
Music streaming service Spotify launched in the Netherlands and introduces two new products.
Music streaming service Spotify launches in the Netherlands and introduces two new products. Today is the day Spotify launches in the Netherlands: Spotify’s 7th European market. Spotify indicated that it plans to launch in the US later this year. The company also announced two new products that will be available…
Monday, 17 May 2010 09:34
50% OF DANCE LABELS SUPPORT THREE-STRIKES
CMU Daily http://www.theCMUwebsite.com report that dance music website Data Transmission recently surveyed 200 label execs, pluggers, publicists and producers about all things piracy and digital, and found that, while often not so vocal about these things, the independent dance sector is facing much of the same issues as the rest…
Monday, 10 May 2010 12:05
Apple plans to shut down Lala.com
Apple plans to shut down its newly acquired online music service Lala.com at the end of May. What Apple plans to do exactly with Lala.com and/or its technology is not known yet. More news to follow!
Monday, 10 May 2010 11:24
Spotify plans to launch in The Netherlands soon
Spotify plans to launch in The Netherlands soon Streaming service Spotify has confirmed it will launch in the Netherlands soon. Dutch media suggests the service will launch on the 18th of May. More news to follow!
Monday, 03 May 2010 21:24
Fileshares paid for other people's music
Below is an email from a filesharing website service. This shows everyone gets paid except the person that actually made the music or the label that spends money to master, promote and release the music.Labels pay mechanical royalties to release music, legal download stores do the same to sell the…
Wednesday, 21 April 2010 13:37
European Commission debate on improving collective rights management in the European Union
On April 23, 2010 the European Commission is planning a Public Hearing on the Governance of Collective Rights Management in the EU. The aim of this hearing is to explore how the relationships between copyright owners, collecting societies and commercial users of copyright have evolved over time and how these can be…
Monday, 19 April 2010 16:44
New EPM podcast hosted by the mighty Space DJz
We proudly welcome the mighty Space DJz with Ben Long at the helm for our new podcast. A full-bodied techno mix that infuses tracks from James Ruskin, Detroit Grand Pubahs, Decibel Flekx, My Evil Twin, Nick Robson, Robin Renwick and more with their own techno productions we find the often…
Saturday, 27 March 2010 09:30
Music sales slowly increasing
The decline in record sales slowed down significantly last year, despite the recession and all that jazz. According to stats from the Entertainment Retailers Association, whose members represent over 90% of the market. Needless to say, music sales were helped enormously by the booming a la carte digital market, which…
Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:03
New EPM Podcast: "St. Patricks Day Special" hosted by dagham & remlaB
Following Robert Hood’s exclusive M-Plant minimal masterclass we now have Ireland’s Nice N Nasty providing us with an exclusive, all Irish mix for a special St. Patrick’s Day EPM Podcast. Recorded by Desy Balmer and Dave Ingham (aka Dagham & Remlab) the mix features some of Ireland’s finest electronic produvers,…
Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:50
EPM launch new website with Robert Hood Podcast
EPM announce the re-launch of their website www.epm-music.com with minimal master Robert Hood providing the next instalment of the EPM Podcast series. Further EPM has also completed contractual deals with Youtube, Spotify, Scandinavia's Basepoint, France's Deezer and 24/7 Entertainment to give electronic music an even bigger voice within the ever…
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 12:33
James Ruskin’s Blueprint news
James Ruskin’s Blueprint label continues to celebrate its re-birth as the label launches a brand new EP from main man, Ruskin himself. The Sabre EP contains two tracks displaying why Ruskin is revered as one of techno’s most forward thinking DJ/producers. The lead track ‘Sabre’ rattles and hums in the…
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 12:23
High losses for Dutch collecting society Buma-Stemra on 2008’s stock market to the detriment of the artists
Due to huge losses on the stock market in 2008 Dutch collecting society Buma-Stemra is not able to pay all collected royalties to its claimants, the artists. Buma-Stemra, will retain a staggering 10.4% of all royalties collected over 2008 (€ 140 million Euros) to cover its costs and to compensate…
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 12:18
Illegal file sharing site Pirate Bay, has owners imprisoned for 2 years and fined 2.4 million for copyright crime
As much previously reported, on Friday morning three of the men who helped create the tracker service Pirate Bay: Frederik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg and Peter Sunde, and their chief funder Carl Lundstrom, were all sentenced to a year in jail for their role in enabling vast amounts of copyright…
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 12:22
Last.fm goes payware
Last.fm has recently switched to a payment model. For € 3 a month users can enjoy the music stream service that used to be free. As more ad-powered services change to a payment model some new kids around the block give it another go. Spotify is confident it can make…
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 12:24
France, the first country to implement the controversial “three-strikes-and-you’re-out”-legislation
Intellectual property law is on the move! More and more countries are taking a heavy-handed approach to fighting digital piracy. Last month the Swedish court found the founders of the peer-to-peer site “The Pirate Bay” guilty of infringing copyright. The court sentenced all four defendants to a year in jail…
Wednesday, 17 June 2009 12:28
European Commissioner for Competition Kroes welcomes progress on pan-European music licensing following Online Commerce Roundtable
European Commissioner for Competition Neelie Kroes has welcomed progress made towards pan-European music licensing following discussions in the Online Commerce Roundtable. In particular, she welcomes confirmation by French collecting society SACEM that it is willing, in principle, to entrust other collecting societies with pan-European licensing of its repertoire and to…
Monday, 17 August 2009 23:26
EPM August podcast by DJ Nasty
Hot on the heels of the Mysterious Mr. O’s EPM Podcast for July we now welcome the master of the Booty Break himself, DJ Nasty. As one of the most respected Detroit producers around the world he has recorded with some of Detroit's heaviest hitters. Even so, DJ Nasty…
Monday, 31 August 2009 19:37
Mininova flattened by Dutch court
Mininova flattened by Dutch court Ordered to remove BitTorrent files or face big fine A civil court has ordered Pirate Bay rival Mininova to carpet bomb all "infringing" BitTorrent files held on its servers within the next three months or face a fine of up to €5m ($7.16m). Dutch-based pro-copyright…
Thursday, 03 September 2009 12:34
UK MUSIC INDUSTRY SUPPORT MANDELSON'S ANTI-P2P MOMENTUM
The top man of record label trade body the BPI and the boss of entertainment retail organisation ERA have both added their signatures to an open letter published in The Times yesterday supporting the government's recent announcement that it will take a more hardline approach to combat file-sharing, and introduce…
Friday, 25 September 2009 14:34
FAC revoke article in The Times
FAC REACH AGREEMENT: THREE-STRIKES YES, NET-SUSPENSION Despite earlier in the day announcing she wouldn't be attending the big artist debate on the file-sharing issue, Lily Allen did make an appearance at the Featured Artists' Coalition's meeting in London last night, and apparently got a round of applause from her fellow…
Tuesday, 29 September 2009 15:14
France passes three-strikes bill
France passes three-strikes bill Opponents vow to block Hadopi II France's lower house has approved an amended version of the controversial three-strikes legislation intended to crack down on illegal downloads. Last September rthe 15th, the French National Assembly passed the anti-piracy bill by a 285 votes to 225, with the…
Wednesday, 30 September 2009 12:54
Couldn't have said it better....
Feargal Sharkey’s organisation ‘UK Music’ used a whole page of ad space to print this rant in the Guardian (English newspaper) this week. An old blog, but quite an interesting read and brings up some of the points many of you hopefully share, and all of us at EPM have…
Saturday, 28 November 2009 20:01
SLAM Stems
SLAM Stems With recently released remixes for Paul Ritch, Mihalis Safras and Samuel L Session, a big Slam single on Len Faki's Figure label, and a much anticipated Slam mix of Josh Wink's "Everybody to the Sun" about to drop, the duo are on a roll. Now with the release…
Saturday, 28 November 2009 20:29
Download a Zombie Nation mix
There's a certain mystery surrounding Zombie Nation. It's a name synonymous with making exciting dance music with a warm analogue sound. Take a listen to his back catalogue…the weird and wonderful sound has been blowing away audiences throughout Europe and Japan in 2009 on the Zombielicious Tour with North America…
Saturday, 28 November 2009 21:05
UK presented the Digital Economy Bill.
Friday 20 November the UK government presented the new Digital Economy Bill bringing in hardcore legislation against fileshares. Minister for Digital Britain Stephen Timms announced that Internet service providers will be forced to send cease-and-desist notices to customers they suspect of copyright infringement. The ISPs are then obliged to pass…
Saturday, 28 November 2009 22:00
Mastering in digital music
Getting your digital music mastered professionally is often the final but all too often overlooked step in releasing your music to the stores. All too often we hear music from labels digital releases that sounds flat, muffled, distorted, no bass etc. one of many problems from people not mastering their…
